More clues on the mystery plant


Here you can see the height and size of the plant relative to me. It’s growing in my friends’ backyard.

I got the courage to taste a leaf today and it was very spicy, in a mustard-y way. I braced myself as I chewed it, in case it were to live up to Brian’s experience with the plant he calls “Burning Don’t Eat Me,” but fortunately it was not that intense. It might be if you took a big bite instead of teeny one.


Here’s a close-up of the little yellow flowers, each of which has four petals.

14 thoughts on “More clues on the mystery plant

  1. hey this looks a lot like brassica nigra aka black mustard. ps – great site! a friend just pointed this out to me!

  2. summary conclusion of my previous posted analysis
    based solely on the fotos and info posted
    and without the benefit of on-site inspection:

    1) these two fotos posted on may 10th
    are absolutely-positively-botanically in the mustard family.
    looks like mustard. taste like mustard. four petaled yellow cruciform flowers.
    the seed pod will put to rest this part of the mystery.
    which genus and which species and which variety is the mystery
    (a lively three-in-one mystery).
    it is also my contention that these are absolutely-positively-botanically
    not the same plants posted on april 28th.

    2) the two fotos posted on april 28th are absolutely-positively not mustards.
    they are absolutely-positively-botanically
    not the same plant in fotos posted on may 10th.
    they are absolutely-positively-botanically
    in the aster family, sonchus genus, oleracea species,
    the variety of each are different and a mystery.

    3) four fotos. three separate plants in three separate places. three separate mysteries.

    4) alas, a 720 mile round trip separates us. but do believe my posts will in the end prove true.

  3. we may actually have THREE MYSTERY PLANTS !
    -2) planet mercury went retrograde in motion on april 17 2010 and goes direct today may 11 2010 at 3:27 pm PDT! consult your reputable local or internet astrologer(s) for details! (or see below for two)
    -1) do believe we may have a “coyote(s)” running this “investi‘gas’tion”!
    0) ground zero proof and clue(s) of “coyote-activity” commencing with the first verbal entry and foto.
    recommend everyone re-examine and correlate all the evidence submitted so far by mz lerner and her
    possible knowing and unknowing accomplices. enough said.
    so…foto # 3
    1) is this the exact same plant in the exact same place as the one in foto #1 or as the one in foto #2 ?
    2) agree with matt that foto # 3 looks like a different plant in a different place.
    3) if indeed the little yellow flowers have four petals, then….
    do believe it is botanically safe and correct
    to assume the following about this plant in this foto # 3:
    Kingdom Plantae – Plants
    Subkingdom Tracheobionta – Vascular plants
    Superdivision Spermatophyta – Seed plants
    Division Magnoliophyta – Flowering plants
    Class Magnoliopsida – Dicotyledons
    Subclass Dilleniidae
    Order Capparales
    Family Brassicaceae – Mustard family
    Genus -MYSTERY
    Species -MYSTERY
    4) also, if indeed foto #1 and/or foto #2 are of different plants in different places
    than the one in foto #3,
    and if one could go back to those exact plants in those exact places,
    and if they are also in flower and have not gone to seed,
    then, they will look like any of the various sonchus flowers
    shown at the bottom of the following web-site:
    http://www.maltawildplants.com/ASTR/Sonchus_oleraceus.php#PIC.
    that is, “ a ligulate/dandelion-like with numerous tiny flowers (disc florets) grouped together and radiating from a common receptacle. each floret has a strap-like petal collectively forming a globular or cushion-like structure.”
    5) HOWEVER, not being the person who took any of the three fotos of the plants in the fotos,
    and relying solely on these fotos,
    and assuming foto #3 is NOT the same plant in the same place as foto #1 or foto #2,
    and relying solely on the verbal information supplied so far,
    do believe we have a mystery sonchus in foto #1
    a mystery sonchus in foto #2
    and a mystery mustard in foto #3

    the more mystery, the more research, the more “lernered”!
    we may actually have THREE MYSTERY PLANTS !
    0) ground zero clue:
    1) is this the exact same plant in the exact same place as the one in foto #1 or as the one in foto #2 ?
    2) foto # 3 looks like a different plant in a different place. (which, like matt, i do believe it is)
    3) if indeed the little yellow flowers have four petals, then….
    do believe it is botanically safe and correct
    to assume the following about this plant in this foto # 3:
    Kingdom Plantae – Plants
    Subkingdom Tracheobionta – Vascular plants
    Superdivision Spermatophyta – Seed plants
    Division Magnoliophyta – Flowering plants
    Class Magnoliopsida – Dicotyledons
    Subclass Dilleniidae
    Order Capparales
    Family Brassicaceae – Mustard family
    Genus -MYSTERY
    Species -MYSTERY
    4) also, if indeed foto #1 and/or foto #2 are of different plants in different places
    than the one in foto #3,
    and if one could go back to those exact plants in those exact places,
    and if they are also in flower and have not gone to seed,
    then, they will look like any of the various sonchus flowers
    shown at the bottom of the following web-site:
    http://www.maltawildplants.com/ASTR/Sonchus_oleraceus.php#PIC.
    that is, “ a ligulate/dandelion-like with numerous tiny flowers (disc florets) grouped together and radiating from a common receptacle. each floret has a strap-like petal collectively forming a globular or cushion-like structure.”
    5) HOWEVER, not being the person who took any of the three fotos of the plants in the fotos,
    and relying solely on these fotos,
    and assuming foto #3 is NOT the same plant in the same place as foto #1 or foto #2,
    and relying solely on the verbal information supplied so far,
    do believe we have a mystery sonchus in foto #1
    a mystery sonchus in foto #2
    and a mystery mustard in foto #3

    the more mystery, the more research, the more “lernered”!
    ====================================================================
    hey firestorm coyote,
    thanks to one-n-all,
    for me this has become an almost empirical-hands-on-group-correspondence-internet-botany-course with open ended assignments; “lernering” as we go along.
    p.s. more medicinal info on sonchus:
    http://www.medicineatyourfeet.com/sonchusoleraceus.html

    just two of many:

    “Mercury turns direct at 2° Taurus 41′ on May 11th, conjunct the Fixed Star Sharatan…” http://www.astrologycom.com/mercret.html

    “Mercury goes direct in motion 3:27 pm PDT, 11:27 pm Greenwich May 11 (May 12 east of Greenwich) and will speed up for many weeks to come. This shows a quickening of the ability to coordinate, put things together, understand the whole and the parts, the process and the larger cycles. Mercury, or Hermes, “the Guide of Souls,” is also known as the Divine Trickster, as well as all lesser models.” http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2010/05/mercury-stationary-direct-affecting-events-in-may-june-july-and-august-2010—gradual-development-leading-to-new-worlds.html

    submitting this today may 11 2010 at exactly 3:27pm
    enjoy…

    • the above ‘botched’ almost double repetitious-submission-miscommunication is yrt another typical of mercury retrograde activity. looks like i should have double checked my word document one last time before I hurriedly copied and pasted it here.
      at exactly 3:27pm pdt mercury goes stationary in motion and THEN direct.
      if only i had waited until a few more seconds…
      oh well…case in point…right or wrong…having a great time.
      “if you are right, you are right !
      if you are wrong, you are wrong !
      either way you have to acknowledge and accept the consequences of your actions.”
      …serendipitous schynchronicty…

  4. That looks like a mustard of some sort. Are you sure it is the same plant as the ones in the previous photos? The leaf structure looks different, although that wouldn’t be unususal for a mustard to have different-looking stem leaves.

      • I don’t know who/what ‘Coyote’ is/was. Aside from an awesome canine animal.

        I’m just some guy interested in Rewilding and stuff. Trying to build a blog right now, but frustrated by the lack of things I do interesting enough to ask people to read about.

        I do provide my email with every post I’ve been making on various primitivist (etc) blogs.

        Sorry if I’m bothering anyone.

        Name is Cole, btw, I like the Coleus plant, so that’s what I’ve decided to use as a SN.

      • While I cannot speak for him, I assume Pas was referring to an earlier e-mail exchange I had with him about whether I might have coyote medicine in my proverbial medicine pouch. Coyote medicine is associated with trickster teachers.

      • Oh and btw, Cole, I am glad you are participating on this site and hope you will continue to do so!

      • thanks rebecca.
        my sentiments as well.
        thanks coleus.
        if my comment sounded heavy or unfriendly,
        whoops!
        if coleus is cole,
        then i made a mistake
        by not prefacing my remark more clearly with the way i am feeling.
        something like:
        “right on coleus! i am as curious as you are.
        they say that curiosity killed the cat.
        but satisfaction brought it back to life.nine times

    • however….
      dear one-n-all
      no offense intended to anyone.
      and please forgive me.
      i do need your collective help and sage advice.

      i do not mind sticking my foot in my mouth.
      but i already have one in there.
      i know how to scoot around on my butt.
      but it is easier to walk on two feet.

      the control mechanism between my thoughts
      and the keys on this keyboard are getting weak.
      planet-mercury has gone direct, the mystery plants, my curiosity,
      and who knows who else, have got a hold on me and will not let go.

      in light defense of my comment, i offer the following observations:

      1st) rebecca is a seriously accomplished balanced investigative journalist!
      (please take the time to read her investigative report
      on the grisly effects of manure fumes on the neighbors of the largest dairy farm in New York state.
      “Toxic fumes, blisters & brain damage: The cost of doing business?” April 2, 2008, Ithaca Times.
      as presented, the facts irrefutably speak for themselves.)
      somewhere in this firstways.com website there is a link to rebeccalerner.com.
      check it out. if you have not already.

      2nd) please consider the following poetic sound devices:

      * alliteration -repetition of initial consonant sounds: Porky Pig ate a platter of pot roast.
      * rhyme -repetition of final sounds in two or more words: wild, mild, child
      * assonance -the repetition of vowel sounds within words: goat, bowl, scold
      * consonance -the repetition of sounds within or at the end of words: cutler, antler, battler
      * onomatopoeia -the use of words that sound like what they refer to: clop, bang, thud

      the sounds of “curious-coleus-cole” qualify for the first four of the five poetic devices listed on
      http://www.brighthub.com/education/k-12/articles/24133.aspx.

      3rd) “curious-coleus-cole” sounds kinda journalistically ‘coyot-ish’
      pure accident? pure coincidence? or….?
      whichever and/or whatever…definitely synchronistically serendipitous.

      4) and btw, ‘ccc’, lol and fyi, ‘gyh’ (so…g-lad y-ou’re h-ere…wild one),
      if you did not already know, i sure did not,
      “coleus ACTION : Anti-glaucoma, Anti-platelet, Bronchospasmolyltic, Cardiotonic, Hypotensive, Anti aging, Anti allergic, Smooth muscle and arterial relaxant, Antiasthmatic.” from: http://www.coleus.net/.
      the more mystery…the more lerner-ing .
      it for now.
      ‘abc’ and ‘xyz’

      p.s. btw, rebecca, what is cost per word for your blog site?
      i may have to invest more than just words
      please be lavish in your ‘moderation’.

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